Slash Records (Violent Femmes)

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Slash Records (Violent Femmes)

Post by j_loop » Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:23 pm

Anybody know which of these labels came first?
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Post by SID » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:09 pm

I've always seen the 1st one, and I got that one early on and it has the first label. Not positive on which came first. What does it say in the dead wax ?

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Post by j_loop » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:45 pm

SID wrote:I've always seen the 1st one, and I got that one early on and it has the first label. Not positive on which came first. What does it say in the dead wax ?
Yeah, based on what I've found online the top one seems to be more common.

Deadwax of top one (multi slash):
1-23845-A-SH2 O B-48958-A SH2 SLM (triangle) 6040 SA 0-1SM1
yes, all of that is on side one. side 2 has less.

Deadwax of second one (black/white):
1-23845-A RE L-13107

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Post by SID » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:58 pm

The 'RE' on the second one could mean reissue.

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Post by annaloog » Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:52 am

SID wrote:The 'RE' on the second one could mean reissue.
'RE' following the 'dead wax' matrix no. ordinarily indicates a recut master disk.

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Post by j_loop » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:34 pm

Pertaining to the record with "RE" in the dead wax:
Presumably, there was a master disk used before this one that wore down and they recut a second (or third etc..) and kept on pressing, right? My understanding of manufacturing is still novice. And if correct, please remind me the approximate number of records a master disk will press before being recut? For the most part there is or isn't a way to tell where within a master disk's life a record was pressed? I know this is their most popular record, but was it a hit right off the bat or did it take some time?

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Post by annaloog » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:45 am

A master disk is cut for each record side. Usually, a recut is made because the previous cut proved unsatisfactory for whatever reason. The master disk is plated to create a negative image which, in turn is plated to create a positive image (mother, or matrix). The matrix is plated to create a (negative image) stamper, and the stamper for each side goes into the record press to create the vinyl record (pressing). The lifetime of a stamper varies ... perhaps 500 to 1000 pressings.

Sorry I don't know enough about the Violent Femmes labels to answer your question.

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Post by j_loop » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:47 pm

Thanks Annaloog!
I was confusing master disk with stamper, whoops!
Do they ever make a notation if the mother needs to be redone?
I know some have stamper codes (1A or 1S like RCA), right? But not all are so easy to decipher I take it.

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